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i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep spending money on things -- >> let's -- >> let's get back to medicare. the president said the government could provide it at a lower cost without a profit. let's -- >> let's not. let's let him respond. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd/frank and what the governor just said. >> massachusetts governor mitt romney rolling over the debate moderator, jim lehrer, of pbs last night during the first presidential debate of this campaign season. joining us now for the interview is dan rather, host of "dan rather reports" on access tv. anchor of cbs' "evening news" for 20 years and a veteran observer of the campaigns. thank you. >> always a pleasure to be here. >> what is your reaction overall to the debate last night? i am assuing you think mitt romney won the debate. what do you think is important about it? >> i think what's important about it is it gives governor romney a chance to get a second look from the electorate. when he was
i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep spending money on things -- >> let's -- >> let's get back to medicare. the president said the government could provide it at a lower cost without a profit. let's -- >> let's not. let's let him respond. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd/frank and what the governor just said. >> massachusetts governor mitt romney rolling over the...
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i love pbs, i love big bird, i actually like you to. but i'm not going to keep spending money on things, borrowing money from china to pay for it. that's number one. number two, i'll take programs that are currently good programs but i think will be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number three, i'll make government more efficient, cut back the number of employees, combine some agencies into departments. my cutbacks will be done through attrition, by the way. this is the approach we have to take to get america to a balanced budget. the president said he'd cut the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled it. $1 trillion deficits for the last four years. the president's put in place as much public debt, almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> mr. president, two minutes. >> when i walked into the oval office, i had more than a $1 trillion deficit greeting me. and we know where it came from. two wars that were paid for on a credit card, two tax cuts that were not paid
i love pbs, i love big bird, i actually like you to. but i'm not going to keep spending money on things, borrowing money from china to pay for it. that's number one. number two, i'll take programs that are currently good programs but i think will be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number three, i'll make government more efficient, cut back the number of employees, combine some agencies into departments. my cutbacks will be done through attrition, by the way....
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spending, but mitt romney wouldn't say any programs he wanted to cut in spending last night except for pbs. the only other thing he mentioned was obama care, which adds $109 billion to the deficit. east cuts less than 0.1 of 1%. >> i don't want to be a bad moderator. let me get you in and move on to anne. go ahead. >> i want to thank keith for admitting his side believes in redistribution of wealth. we believe in cutting government spending. >> mitt romney doesn't believe that. your own candidate has taken both sides, and last night was not the mitt romney who campaigned for four months to win the republican primary. you know that as well as i do, and you steve, have been so honest in critiquing him should be more honest about his dishonesty last night. >> let me bring in anne on that. anne, back to the president and this incumbent curse. he didn't bring up the 47% and talk about bain capital outsourcing jobs, tax returns and offshore accounts. do you believe his campaign gave him that advice? why not use those weapons, and you don't compromise your likability when you were telling what yo
spending, but mitt romney wouldn't say any programs he wanted to cut in spending last night except for pbs. the only other thing he mentioned was obama care, which adds $109 billion to the deficit. east cuts less than 0.1 of 1%. >> i don't want to be a bad moderator. let me get you in and move on to anne. go ahead. >> i want to thank keith for admitting his side believes in redistribution of wealth. we believe in cutting government spending. >> mitt romney doesn't believe...
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. >> tonight, pbs will not be the worst think on television. >> what difference does that make. >> if you wanted to reach an independent swing woman voter by the house and garden channel, if you want to reach a republican leaning law bu less likely to vote swing manning guy the golf channel. >> he did research on blacks who might vote for bush and many are christians that watch these tv preachers. >> now in the name of jesus, i command this debt out of my life. >> so he placed advertisements there. >> in ohio, bush got 8% of the african-american voted. in 2004 he got 16%. because we were able to identify their history was overwhelmingly democratic we had clues they might be reachable. >> this year they want to reach not just swing voters but swing voters in these ten states. >> you take a map of the united states and you just cross them out. we can't win here. >> john: for most of us really don't count. we live in the wrong state. i live in new york. my state votes will go to obama. if all new york swing voters shift their votes. if you live in texas, same deal. doesn't matter how vot
. >> tonight, pbs will not be the worst think on television. >> what difference does that make. >> if you wanted to reach an independent swing woman voter by the house and garden channel, if you want to reach a republican leaning law bu less likely to vote swing manning guy the golf channel. >> he did research on blacks who might vote for bush and many are christians that watch these tv preachers. >> now in the name of jesus, i command this debt out of my life....
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president. >> i like it. >> i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like you, too. but i am not going to spend monothings to borrow money from china to pay for t. number 2, i will take programs that are good programs that if they are run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number 3, i will make government more efficient and cut employees and combine agencies and departments. my cutbacks will be done through atrittion, by the way. this is the approach we have to take to get america to a balanced budget. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled t. trillion-dollar deficits for the last four years. the president's put in place as much public debt, almost as much as all prior presidents combine. >> jim: mr. president, two minutes. >> when i walked in the oval office. himore than a trillion-dollar deficit greeting me. we know where it came from. two wars that were paid for on a credit card, two tax cuts that were not paid for and a whole bunch of programs that are not paid for. and then, a massive economic
president. >> i like it. >> i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like you, too. but i am not going to spend monothings to borrow money from china to pay for t. number 2, i will take programs that are good programs that if they are run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number 3, i will make government more efficient and cut employees and combine agencies and departments. my cutbacks will be done through atrittion, by the way. this is the...
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pbs subsidy, $444 million. but if you look at the tax breaks to oil and gas companies that romney defended last night, those add up to $4 billion this year alone. and take a look at mitt romney's plan for the defense budget. he wants to increase spending by $2 trillion over the next ten years. so, i mean, big bird is a big diversion to what he's really talking about in terms of the deficit. >> well, i think those of us out here crave specifics from governor romney. and when he's talked about this in the past, he's often thrown big bird under the bus. i don't know what would happen if he threw big bird under the bass. maybe the bus would go off the road. but never the let's, he has this little set piece he does. do you want to know what i'll cut? i'll cut pbs and big bird, the national endowment of humanities and the amtrak subsidy. you add that all up, those are the only specifics we've gotten out of him during this campaign about budget cuts, and you get $2 million mainly because the amtrak subsidy 1.4. so tha
pbs subsidy, $444 million. but if you look at the tax breaks to oil and gas companies that romney defended last night, those add up to $4 billion this year alone. and take a look at mitt romney's plan for the defense budget. he wants to increase spending by $2 trillion over the next ten years. so, i mean, big bird is a big diversion to what he's really talking about in terms of the deficit. >> well, i think those of us out here crave specifics from governor romney. and when he's talked...
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i like pbs and big bird and i like you too. but i'm not going to keep spending moneythings i have to borrow money from china to pay for. >> so don't boo now. but i want to make sure i got this straight. he will get rid of regulations on wall street but he is going to crack down on seseme street. thank goodness somebody is finally cracking down on big bird. n who knew that he was responsible for the deficits elmo has to watch out. >> joining me now nbc's joy read. he is going to cut 1, 100th of 1% of the federal budget by cutting any subsidies that go to pbs, i don't know, i don't think he is going to get to that balanced budget with that. >> i don't think so. but he will stop those socialists muppets. the problem with the idea of cutting such a small piece of the budget with pbs is medicare and medicaid. he said that he would increase military spending so what mitt romney would be left with would be slashing a third of something else. that would be school lunches and veterans benefits. he would have to slash everything else in
i like pbs and big bird and i like you too. but i'm not going to keep spending moneythings i have to borrow money from china to pay for. >> so don't boo now. but i want to make sure i got this straight. he will get rid of regulations on wall street but he is going to crack down on seseme street. thank goodness somebody is finally cracking down on big bird. n who knew that he was responsible for the deficits elmo has to watch out. >> joining me now nbc's joy read. he is going to cut...
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welcome to our viewers on pbs in america and around the globe. one stage, at two men coming tens of millions of viewers. barack obama and mitt romney are getting set to square off for a televised debate. -- one stage, two men, tens of millions of viewers. for the first time, we might finally hear details on just how they plan to do it. our north american added there is in denver for us tonight. >> when the candidate stake to the stage tonight, they will want to convince the people that they speak their language. sometimes it is more of a stretch. >> [speaking spanish] >> obviously, they will not be speaking spanish tonight. the largest growing ethnic group could be critical in this election. there is going to be even more importance in the future. quarter of all americans under 18 are latino. canvassing in colorado, a swing state where the latino vote is hugely important. now, some are disappointed that he has not done more to help the illegal immigrants that come across the border. a few find this election a hard choice. >> we know that there is
welcome to our viewers on pbs in america and around the globe. one stage, at two men coming tens of millions of viewers. barack obama and mitt romney are getting set to square off for a televised debate. -- one stage, two men, tens of millions of viewers. for the first time, we might finally hear details on just how they plan to do it. our north american added there is in denver for us tonight. >> when the candidate stake to the stage tonight, they will want to convince the people that...
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i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> okay. mitt romney has never made it a secret he really likes firing people. he ruffled feathers when me proposed to cut federal funding for pbs. it wasn't because moderator jim lehrer worked for pbs since 1973. romney messed with the most popular bird in america, and twitter responded. big bird peaked at 17,000 tweets per minute and the #savesesamestreet became the top trending topic. >> i don't understand. you know, everything was just fine. why does it have to be this way? give me one good reason. >> well, that's the problem, pbs doesn't receive any direct money from the government. the government funds the corporation for public broadcasting, a profit -- a private non-profit corporation that distributes the subsidy to local pbs stations. in 2012, cpb was given $444.1 million. let's see. what is that? that's .012% of the federal budget. last year, pbs received just 5% of cpb's total appropria
i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> okay. mitt romney has never made it a secret he really likes firing people. he ruffled feathers when me proposed to cut federal funding for pbs. it wasn't because moderator jim lehrer worked for pbs since 1973. romney messed with the most popular bird in america, and twitter responded. big bird peaked at 17,000 tweets per minute and the...
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i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like big bird. i cannot keep spending money to borrow from china to pay for it. i will take programs that are good programs but will be run more officially at the state level. -- more efficiently at the state level. i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees and combine some agencies. my cutbacks will be done through attrition. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. he doubled it. trillion-dollar deficits for the last four years. the president has put in place almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> when i walked into the oval office i had more than a trillion dollar deficit greeting me. we know where it came from. two wars paid for on a credit card, two cuts that are not pay for, programs that were not paid for, a massive economic crisis. despite that, yes, we had to take some emergency measures to make sure we did not slip into a great depression. let's make sure we are cutting out things that are not helping us grow.
i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like big bird. i cannot keep spending money to borrow from china to pay for it. i will take programs that are good programs but will be run more officially at the state level. -- more efficiently at the state level. i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees and combine some agencies. my cutbacks will be done through attrition. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. he doubled it. trillion-dollar deficits...
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. >> romney: i'll cut programs like pbs, i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees, combine agencies and departments. this is the approach we have to take to get america to an balanced budget. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. unfortunately he doubled it. trillion dollars deficits for the last four years. the president has put it in place as much public debt -- almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> mr. president? >> obama: when i walked into the oaf value office i had a deficit facing me with two wars that were not paid for, tax cuts that were not paid for, a whole bunch of programs that were not paid for, and a massive economic crisis. yes, we had to taken initial emergency measures. but what we have all said is let's make sure we are cutting out those things that are not helping us grow. to 77 government programs everything from aircrafts that the air force had ordered but won't working very well 18 government programs for education that were well intentioned but weren't helping kids learn. we w
. >> romney: i'll cut programs like pbs, i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees, combine agencies and departments. this is the approach we have to take to get america to an balanced budget. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. unfortunately he doubled it. trillion dollars deficits for the last four years. the president has put it in place as much public debt -- almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined....
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i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop -- i like pbs. i like big bird, i actually like you, too. i'm not going to spend money on things to borrow money china to pay for. number two, take programs that are good, but would be run more efficiently at state level. i cut back the number of employees in government, combine agencies in departmeand departm. this would be down by attrition. this is what we have to do. the president said he would cult the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled it. trillion dollar deficits for the last four years. the president's put it in place as much public debt, almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> mr. president? two minutes. >> when i walked into the oval office, i had more than a trillion dollar deficit greeting me. and we know where it came from. two wars that were paid for on a credit card. two tax cuts that were not paid for. and a whole bunch of programs that were not paid for. and then a massive economic crisis. and despite that, what we've said is, yes, we had
i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop -- i like pbs. i like big bird, i actually like you, too. i'm not going to spend money on things to borrow money china to pay for. number two, take programs that are good, but would be run more efficiently at state level. i cut back the number of employees in government, combine agencies in departmeand departm. this would be down by attrition. this is what we have to do. the president said he would cult the deficit in half. unfortunately,...
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got rid of pbs, jim. you're on the chopping block. you're out. let's go to jim havandehei at politico. good morning. >> good morning. >> for our new viewers just joining us, your initial take on what happened last night. the consensus seems to be that mitt romney had a great night. do you feel that way? >> yeah, i don't disagree with anything i heard in the first 20 minutes. i think you cannot overestimate what a big night last night was for mitt romney. you have to think about the mood going into this debate, his own staff, conservative leaders, republican elected officials all thought that this was a losing campaign. they were frustrated, and they were voicing it publicly. last night they got the candidate they've been praying for the entire campaign, a guy who was cool, a guy who was clever, a guy who was specific and who was middle-class focused. so what that's going to do, you're not going to have the bellyachi bellyaching anymore from conservatives. you no longer will have donors shutting their wallets shut them completely. you won't have t
got rid of pbs, jim. you're on the chopping block. you're out. let's go to jim havandehei at politico. good morning. >> good morning. >> for our new viewers just joining us, your initial take on what happened last night. the consensus seems to be that mitt romney had a great night. do you feel that way? >> yeah, i don't disagree with anything i heard in the first 20 minutes. i think you cannot overestimate what a big night last night was for mitt romney. you have to think...
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. >> pbs has released a statement accusing governor romney of making pbs a political target and of not understanding the value of the american people place in public broadcasting. how do americans generally view public broadcasting? and its funding? >> i mean, people are generally very favorable of it. pbs did a study last year where 69% of people were in favor of keeping the public broadcasting funding. and that was across party lines, even conservatives favored keeping it to the tune of i think 53%. so it's something people like. and the thing is, it's such a small part of the federal budget. it's less than .01%. with trillion of dollars that's hard for us to figure out. but if you put that in say i made $40,000 a year. that would be about 56 cents out of my annual budget. public broadcasting. >> that's putting it in perspective there. the ceo of pbs, paula kerger points out that federal funding for public broadcasting has been cut 13% just in the past two years. have we felt an impact from that? >> yes, in the places that are going to see more of an impact of that are going to be th
. >> pbs has released a statement accusing governor romney of making pbs a political target and of not understanding the value of the american people place in public broadcasting. how do americans generally view public broadcasting? and its funding? >> i mean, people are generally very favorable of it. pbs did a study last year where 69% of people were in favor of keeping the public broadcasting funding. and that was across party lines, even conservatives favored keeping it to the...
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i think with jim lehrer there from pbs, he made the point from a joking reference. look, you have to borrow money from china to pay for these programs, is it worth it? that's the test that should be applied if we impose it on future generations. big bird, i can tell you, as the father of three children grown now, but any father who's gone to a toy store knows that big bird is a pretty commercially successful entity and whether or not we should be subsidizing it, and you can cite, oh, it's not that big a percentage of the budget, that's true, but every penny that you raise as a potential cut seems to be sacred with this administration and you can't cut it, and they demagogue it, and i think the american people understand this is a big election and a big choice. >> let's talk -- >> you have to make some tough decisions and have to find some things where it's not worth borrowing money and imposing debt on future generations, big bird would be pretty successful, i suspect, without a government federal subsidy and all that debt. >> let's talk about friday's job numbers.
i think with jim lehrer there from pbs, he made the point from a joking reference. look, you have to borrow money from china to pay for these programs, is it worth it? that's the test that should be applied if we impose it on future generations. big bird, i can tell you, as the father of three children grown now, but any father who's gone to a toy store knows that big bird is a pretty commercially successful entity and whether or not we should be subsidizing it, and you can cite, oh, it's not...
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doesn't include c-span, pbs and online. could be almost 60 million people. half the number of people that voted in november. he was particularly stronger in the beginning. viewership is higher at beginning of the program. beginning of the program also sets the tone. he was very strong in his opening statement. the object was to reassure the undecided voters, i have a plan the plan is common sense and practical. i'm going to be bipartisan. i will bring the country together and try to do the big things that will make your life better, increase paychecks an jobs. i think he did a good job of it. if you look back at it, the biggest pickup in a presidential debate was walter mondale in '84 picked up less than four points. governor bush of texas in 2000. john kerry in 2004. governor ronald reagan in 1980 all picked up three points in the polls from the beginning of the debate ceres to the end. reagan only hat one debate. the first debate is the one that tends to set the tone. melissa: it sets the tone. he got a lot of good details out people were looking for. we h
doesn't include c-span, pbs and online. could be almost 60 million people. half the number of people that voted in november. he was particularly stronger in the beginning. viewership is higher at beginning of the program. beginning of the program also sets the tone. he was very strong in his opening statement. the object was to reassure the undecided voters, i have a plan the plan is common sense and practical. i'm going to be bipartisan. i will bring the country together and try to do the big...